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1 priest & 4 teachers witnessed the gun pointing bullying at CSA – police report

September 21, 2012 Leave a comment Go to comments

The gun-pointing incident was allegedly witnessed by several faculty members, identified in a police report as Mrs. Alicante, Ms. Jenny, Father Masana, Mr. Ignacio, and Ms. Cadangan.

The police report also quoted the father as saying: “You shouldn’t go to a school, you’re crazy. You should be in a mental institution…Do you want to fight me?”

http://rp3.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/metro-manila/09/20/12/deped-probing-gun-pointing-incident-inside-makati-school

what did these teachers do when the CSA parent bantilles pulled out a gun and pointed it on the face of high school boy jaime gonzales?

more than that, what were these teachers thinking asking the high school boy to meet with the father of the other high school boy involved in a bullying incident? a confrontation between an adult parent versus a high school boy – what can you expect will happen in a confrontation like that?

we didn’t think it was wise to get the high school boy and the father to meet. the proper thing to do would be to ask the parents of gonzales to meet with bantilles and settle the matter among the adults / parents. that is assuming of course that before the meeting CSA would have processed the whole situation already with appropriate sanctions ready for application to all parties and the high school boys talked to by school counselors.

this confrontation which unfortunately is the worst kind, a life threatened  would not result to anything good. it’s easy to conclude and expect that the father, bantilles will intimidate the boy gonzales. and the resulting “confrontation” will only humiliate and traumatize gonzales. this is a high school boy an experience like that will be hurtful to this young boy.

clearly there are five very wrong things on this whole situation:

  1. CSA’s way of handling and resolving bullying needs improvement
  2. allowing  the high school student to be confronted by a parent is a huge mistake
  3. CSA’s silence on the matter and very delayed reaction  (happened august 30 or 3 weeks ago) is hurting the school, the students involved and the whole CSA community
  4. there is no acceptable reason why a high school student should be subjected to a situation where a gun is pointed at his face and threatened with his life being ended by a bullet from a gun
  5. unless CSA implements significant changes, CSA parents are right to feel their children are not safe inside the campus

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  1. Ashelia B’Nargen
    September 22, 2012 at 6:36 pm | #1

    The article is lacking very important information! Let me clear this up because articles like this hurt the school for the sole reason of being incompetent.

    First of, CSA did not make the parent and the victim meet, nor did they intend to. The father simply rushed into the department, guns blazing, catching everyone unaware of what was about to happen. In short, nobody knew Bantilles was going to go trigger finger on the poor lad.

    Secondly, do you really think the 4 witnesses would’ve just stood by and let everything happen! God NO! 2 of the witnesses tried calming Bantilles down, while another witness called security and the other, who probably had the hardest time, was the one who escorted Bantilles out despite the fact that the abuser had a gun.

    Lastly, for the love of God, one your article is irrelevant for it bears false information and disingenuous assertions.

    • September 22, 2012 at 9:49 pm | #2

      news reports do not say the school was caught unaware of bantilles being in the meeting. it also does not say bantilles came in with guns blazing. the news report says bantilles first slapped the boy, then asked for a bag that was held by a bodyguard that had the gun.

      what did the teachers do when bantilles started to slap the boy?

      even in the scenario you portrayed, it shows there is a gross failure on security in the school. can you imagine a person with a gun can just barge in to the campus so easily and without being stopped by security people.

      this was an accidental meeting between the boy and bantilles? that is very hard to believe. school officials are that clueless that they do not know who is in their campus?

      is getting a gun pointed at your face and being told “I can kill you now” a happy occasion?

      and where is CSA on this? the school has not issued any statement on the matter while the rest of the country is on it. why has CSA not issued any statement? for sure CSA parents and students are very much concerned by this and no response from CSA?

  2. Hazel
    September 24, 2012 at 6:09 pm | #3

    the whole scenario only says that CSA is not, at all, a safe envirnoment for a kid.
    a.) CSA kept its silent because the management is after for its name not for the safety of the student/s
    b.) CSA is afraid if this incident reaches the media (well, it does now actually), the media itself will question the management – that we all know CSA is too guilty to answer
    c.) and why does the bully kid can still show his face around the school? – this is an act that CSA is tolerating bullying.

  3. CSA CONCERNED PARENT
    September 24, 2012 at 7:37 pm | #4

    Now that the school’s official comment is out, it does not state why the police were not called (security was called) and why the gun toting parent was not arrested for endangering minor children.
    It also does not say WHY THE SCHOOL DID NOT FILE A COURT CASE AGAINST THE PARENT. THE SCHOOL MUST SHOW THE COMMUNITY THEY WILL ABSOLUTELY NOT TOLERATE ADULT VIOLENCE ON CHILDREN, NOR TOLERATE GUNS BEING BROUGHT ONTO THE CAMPUS.

  4. Jun Nuñez
    September 24, 2012 at 7:47 pm | #5

    expel the boy. let the father suffer. thats life.

  5. The Plot
    September 25, 2012 at 8:07 pm | #6

    You want a response from a CSA student? Alright.

    First of all, I want to know where you got the information posted here; more specifically, this phrase in your article – “what were these teachers thinking asking the high school boy to meet with the father of the other high school boy involved in a bullying incident.” The CSA faculty did not ask the high school boy to meet with the father, nor will any other sane minded teacher. From my knowledge, the gun-carrying father was only allowed in the building because the teachers will discuss the incident involving his son. Saying that the school is unaware of who is inside its premises is a rash presumption, especially since you do not know the whole incident.

    I would also like to respond to this:

    “clearly there are five very wrong things on this whole situation:

    1. CSA’s way of handling and resolving bullying needs improvement
    2. allowing the high school student to be confronted by a parent is a huge mistake
    3. CSA’s silence on the matter and very delayed reaction (happened august 30 or 3 weeks ago) is hurting the school, the students involved and the whole CSA community
    4. there is no acceptable reason why a high school student should be subjected to a situation where a gun is pointed at his face and threatened with his life being ended by a bullet from a gun
    5. unless CSA implements significant changes, CSA parents are right to feel their children are not safe inside the campus”

    1. I agree with you that CSA needs to improve its anti-bullying programs, though I can assure you we have numerous programs already in place. However, you blame this problem solely on the institution. May I ask you this? How can CSA respond to bullying when it doesn’t know who is being bullied in the first place? CSA needs the cooperation of students as well to make our already existing anti-bullying programs a success. How can you be helped if you never ask for help? Now people may say that it’s CSA’s job to be aware of its students’ affairs, especially in cases like bullying, but it is highly impractical to expect an institution to be able to monitor thousands of students. Case made.

    2. My point to this can be found above

    3. CSA’s silence on the matter is not because of guilt or ill-conscience, but because CSA wants to issue a statement that is concise and to the point, so that many narrow-minded people such as yourself won’t be able to find worm holes, as I no doubt you would try to do. Also, how do you know that CSA has a very delayed reaction? Just because you lack knowledge of this incident it doesn’t mean that it hasn’t been taken care of. You only knew of this episode because of mass media, who, by the way, isn’t doing a fairly good job of reporting facts, not opinions.

    4. I could not agree with you more. Being in the same school and department such as the boy who was bullied, I could only imagine the fear he must have experienced. However, CSA is not to be blamed for this. No one could have anticipated that a man will bring a gun at a supposedly peaceful teacher-parent conference.

    5. CSA has made changes. I presume you don’t know the previous state of our security. Just to give you a heads-up, as I don’t want you to impart wrong information again, CSA has many guards posted in various locations and guards patrolling as well. Furthermore, we have hidden cameras placed in almost every nook and cranny in the school, thereby reinforcing our security.

    Please feel free to reply

    - The Plot

    • September 29, 2012 at 4:58 pm | #7

      I am a parent in CSA and I have heard bullying incidents that were reported to school authorities but up to now– nothing happened. All they did was to conduct seminars on anti-bullying. What they fail to address is the rampant bullying that is happening inside the school. There was an interview just recently on tv about a parent of 3, who experienced bullying on his first son, reported it to school but up to now, wala pa din action on the part of CSA.

  6. maria maria
    September 26, 2012 at 11:49 am | #8

    then where is the cctv recording of the incident. Di po ba napakaimportante nito para mailabas ang tunay na nangyari at tumigil na ang mga nagsisinungaling.. I just wonder kung bakit parang CSA is having a hard time releasing the CCTV recording of the incident.

    • September 26, 2012 at 12:05 pm | #9

      there is a cctv recording of the incident?

  7. maria maria
    September 26, 2012 at 12:16 pm | #10

    as what was claimed by a CSA student, “we have hidden cameras placed in almost every nook and cranny in the school” …

  8. September 26, 2012 at 12:22 pm | #11

    maria maria :

    as what was claimed by a CSA student, “we have hidden cameras placed in almost every nook and cranny in the school” …

    if this is true, then CSA is duty bound to release the recording of the incident to be used in the courts.

  9. September 26, 2012 at 12:27 pm | #12

    The Plot :

    You want a response from a CSA student? Alright.

    First of all, I want to know where you got the information posted here; more specifically, this phrase in your article – “what were these teachers thinking asking the high school boy to meet with the father of the other high school boy involved in a bullying incident.” The CSA faculty did not ask the high school boy to meet with the father, nor will any other sane minded teacher. From my knowledge, the gun-carrying father was only allowed in the building because the teachers will discuss the incident involving his son. Saying that the school is unaware of who is inside its premises is a rash presumption, especially since you do not know the whole incident.

    - The Plot

    “the gun-carrying father was only allowed in the building because the teachers will discuss the incident involving his son” – and they did not know that the the garcia boy will be there too? that is ridiculous.

    that is just too stupid.

    the teachers called the garcia boy to the office, then all of a sudden bantiles was just there by coincidence?

    if this was just by coincidence, then it just proves my point – the school is clueless in what they were doing. they put the boy in harm’s way.

  10. The Plot
    September 26, 2012 at 12:58 pm | #13

    “then where is the cctv recording of the incident. Di po ba napakaimportante nito para mailabas ang tunay na nangyari at tumigil na ang mga nagsisinungaling.. I just wonder kung bakit parang CSA is having a hard time releasing the CCTV recording of the incident.”

    You make an excellent point. However, I am just a student. We only knew of the cameras through mutual discovery with my schoolmates.

    “and they did not know that the the garcia boy will be there too? that is ridiculous.

    that is just too stupid.

    the teachers called the garcia boy to the office, then all of a sudden bantiles was just there by coincidence?

    if this was just by coincidence, then it just proves my point – the school is clueless in what they were doing. they put the boy in harm’s way.”

    Once again, you rash to presumptions. Of course they knew where Jaime was. What normally happens after a punch is thrown in any school? Of course, the one that threw the punch would either be sent to the principal’s office or to the other proper authorities. Nobody expected Mr. Bantiles to show up there.

    And who says that Mr. Bantiles was just there by coincidence? For all we know, this insane person might have set out to track Jaime, using the parent-teacher conference as an excuse to bypass security and enter the building.

    • CSt
      September 26, 2012 at 4:25 pm | #14

      If you are really just a student here, you would certainly understand how any normal parent would feel after hearing this incident. And cmon, stop promoting the image of the school just because you are a student there, if indeed you are, you should be aware of how your school works – palakasan, palakihan ng donation, etc. Cover up in situations like these have been so rampantly practiced that it just became a normal thing for everyone. Urgent situations need urgent actions, not a week or weeks delay will calm everyone down considering a life was at risk here. Stop portraying the augustinian tradition in falsehood! I thought all augustinians are known and expected to be humble, gentle and God-fearing?? Why all these remarks then? Have you ever imagined yourself to be in the Garcia’s shoes? Have you ever felt sympathetic with either of your parents who is scared out of their wits each time they see you in uniform and preparing for the same school? Grow UP Fast and be wiser, its totally different from being so locked up in loyalty. You are not practicing objectivity!

    • Old Man
      September 28, 2012 at 12:02 am | #15

      Hey kid, seems like you were actually there when the incident happened. Weren’t you supposed to be in class? If you are really a student as you claim to be, then your statements in your first paragraph are presumptions as well – third hand information. Hijo, you do not need to lecture us “old folks” on how we should think and feel about your school. The truth will eventually come out and those who want to express their opinions may freely do so. You do not need to defend your school by insinuating people who commented here are ignorant of the facts. May I humbly remind you Sir that your statements are based “on your own knowledge” as well. What you know may probably be gossips as you were not there when it happened unless the same people who were present during the incident told you detail by detail what transpired. No need to defend CSA. We know that “our” school is a great one. What is presently happening is a test of faith, a test “our” leaders must go through.

      Thank you for your opinion, Hijo. As you said you, are only a student and you will discover more of life with your schoolmates (not only cctvs).

  11. Ophel
    September 29, 2012 at 1:25 pm | #16

    Ang right sana ginawa ng school ay meeting with the bully and his parents, Jamie and his parents together with the school officials and teachers, well baka di nangyari ang ganito baka napagusapan pa nga ng maayos.

  12. 1nDay sa Lundun
    December 5, 2012 at 5:30 am | #17

    This is totally unacceptable! What in the world is this father thinking?!!! Did he think scaring or threatening a child in any manner would earn him respect? He is an embarrassment not only to his own child but to his whole family, and the school community.

    This man, Bantilles(?) should be locked up for life. He is a threat to human – he is obviously unstable. Physically an adult mentally a 6-year-old, or younger. Control your anger Mister.

    The God fearing people who supposedly go to mass every sunday and put their children in catholic schools!!! to what purpose?!!! WHAT HYPOCRITES! WOW – am speechless!!! This is the problem when owning guns are legal.

    Only Cowards and uneducated who cannot fight with reasoning and diplomatic words would own guns.

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